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"The fact of the matter is, the way you arrive at that place- and you can talk to anybody about this, who is a legend or pioneer or whatever- is they just got lucky and they blundered into things. They turned around and people liked the stuff they did. You just got lucky, you got lucky a bunch of times. But in the course of a career or a lifetime, you see this time and time again, in anybodys life, there are peaks and valleys.
